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Poster: hseamons Date: May 16, 2010 4:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Thanks for sending the love, Shooting Dark Star. The ample support I've received from folk has been one of the main reasons why I've pressed on to make the matrixes thus far. I also find that I have become reasonably addicted to the matrix "sound" and the need to hear it with new shows. It just seems to create a real aural presence to the shows that make them sound fresh and new. Anyway, Cliff's one-star vehemence has never discounted for me the immense encouragement I have received from folk - it's just that I have really been concerned for Cliff for living in a cloud of delusion and hatred regarding his matrix brothers and sisters. I just speak out here some regarding his one-star rampages in the hope that he might listen to reason and refrain from such negative, loathsome, "one-star" activity.

Cliff, if you're out there, man, please know that I respect you, but I just can't respect shortsighted remarks and ratings that seek solely to vilify matrixes. I was hoping that if I matrixed one of your favorite shows, a TDIH nonetheless, that you might give it a chance and find that the sound is more agreeable than not. Given the initial one-star rating I saw - which I have assumed to be yours, given your track record - I see that my good intentions have been met with utter contempt and rash scrutiny. I just thought you might be limiting yourself more than the reputation of matrixes you seek to damage via one-star reviews. Anyway, take care, and please do have more sensitive consideration for the 5/1/81 matrix that will post soon.

Thanks to all!

peace
hunter

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: May 18, 2010 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

I know my opinion doesn't amount to a hill of beans around here, but in my collection of shows I've D/Led there is a special code in my filing system to identify your matrices. That scratches the "anal retentive nuclear engineer itch".

That the shows are outstanding and your work is superb is a bonus. I'm not a big fan (yet) of '81-'89 but I listen to every matrix you hang up on the archive and so far they've been the spoonful of sugar.

Many thanks Hunter.....

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: May 17, 2010 7:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Rarely jump in, but wanted to add my thanks for your fantastic and time consuming work. I enjoy a good matrix myself, all get to have their own opinions, but how can it be a bad thing to have choice?

Thanks again, I continue to look forward to each new matrix.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 17, 2010 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Old tapes of the live Dead "sound" are better sounding to me after they get a Matrix mix. It enhances my listening pleasure. I appreciate Hunter's work, and all the people who are part of the Matrix scene. The SBD live sound, in my mind's eye, isolates me from the crowd. The AUDs can have problems such as too much audience sound and not enough high-frequency response. The Matrix mix is win-win. It becomes a 3rd source for the same show.

Technical problems still exist when trying to matrix some of our old GD tapes. I wrote a list of details about doing a matrix experiment with my own tapes. Tape speed matching between the different tapes is the biggest problem out there. I experimented with some resampling techniques on my June 9, 1973 tapes. I couldn't get my AUDs and the SBDs matched up perfectly. It's possible that both sources are off-speed. Mission aborted. But, I did improve my remastering skills.

These situations require a listener with perfect pitch to determine which source is better. Then find an algorithm to synch up the worse source to the better source. My thinking is that I'd like to create a sample of a steady and reliable beat. For argument's sake, let's say we use one of Billy's drums or cymbals to synch to. Create this beat-sampling signal from the "better" source. Then synthesize new SMPTE time code from this beat. Use this new time code to synch up the bad source to the good source. Resample the tracks one at a time. Mix the matrix. You're done. I really enjoy the old tapes. Matrices of old tapes are a rare beauty — even around these parts.

I really enjoyed Kevin's new matrix featuring Pig. The sound from these tapes makes Princeton university's gym come "alive."

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Poster: deadmax Date: May 17, 2010 6:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

I don't know about all the one star stuff but I really appreciate having the Matrix sound available so I can choose which type of listening environment I'm in the mood for. If I want to sit and really contemplate the individual notes each band member was playing and analyze the musical play between the boys, I'll listen to a SB. If I want to feel what was going on in the venue at the time and how the audience was interacting with the Boys then I can listen to one of your beautiful MTX and get the emotional push/pull of the entire experience.

Hunter, your projects are just stunning and it's obvious you put a lot of time and your self into these shows and I know MOST people out there are glad you are doing what you are doing.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 17, 2010 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Thought it about time I chimed in on this one. I think you are well aware of my appreciation for a fine matrix. The reason someone would rate a matrix poorly just for the fact it is a matrix is beyond me. If you don't like it, don't freakin' listen to it. For every cruchy matrix, there is at least one tasty SBD for those who don't dig on crowd noise. To each his own I say. I'm glad that you have a good attitude about this whole rating nonsense and that you continue to produce such excellent work. In case you haven't noticed, I normally hop on each and every one of your new shows and try to give it an objective review; however, these days have seen my time more and more consumed with the trivialities surrounding my work life thus taking away from some quality listening time. But take heart in the fact that I do regulary check the TJI for more of your much appreciated contributions (Barton Hall and Princeton are both on my playlist as soon as I find the time...I swear). Press on and keep fighting the good fight.

Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Took you long enough...real world issues...what a load of...well, okay, I understand, but only if you allow that we will still be friends after the game tonight.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 17, 2010 1:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

"Still be friends?" Wouldn't that have to mean we are already? Wow. Learn something new everyday.

Well, seeing as my heart is first with Boston, I'm still so giddy over last night's win (easy, still not saying that we're going to take that series, just happy that it might not be the blowout many were predicting) I wouldn't be too dissapointed (or surprised) if Suns lose. That and I've got the Sox/Yanks on ESPN as well tonight. Yet again my cup runneth over (no, Dire, not THAT cup...sorry)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 17, 2010 2:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Giddy is the word SDH. I was rational till 6:00 P.M. Sunday. Now I want Laker blood and a ring.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 3:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Aiiieee! Yikes...gotta rethink all that touchy feely stuff going between us earlier now.

The irony being I am as Irish as they come...but, that has to be set aside for now. Lakers over Suns in 5-6, Lakers over Celts in 6-7.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 17, 2010 6:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

In between the lines, no mercy, that's what yer momma is for. Outside, all nice and stuff. See the dancing bears... Oh , you want to play again ?......

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 7:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Ha--yeah, wish the Walton kid with his dancin bears could play like the old man in 77! He's never really found his "groove" it seems to me...our whole bench is off this yr, and what with Bynum, that gives the Suns, and certainly your Celtics, a big fat chance...damn.

Oh well--I've had a lot of "fan titles" since 69, so I can live with an off yr now and again. Still hoping they stay focused and hot, and if not, I'll root for Steve against your green meanies (I may be jumping the gun, but I really think your celts will handle the Magic).

Best of luck to you til "then"...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 17, 2010 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Lord , this galls me. I am Yankee fan on the borderline of Yankee/Redsox Nations. People take baseball seriously here . You can lie about your politics and/or religion , but you can't lie about your team. I'm the one w/the rings, not you (tongue sticking out). Strange you would start counting titles in '69. Hmm..... On a serious note did you see recent media regarding BW ? I think we could agree that he and C.Wooden are special folks. Best of luck Bill !

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 8:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Agree bout Wood/Bill, though I know Bill rubs some folks the wrong way...oh yeah--that is pretty funny bout the 69 biz, but it's really just cause that's when I really recall starting to watch games with my old man.

We looked great tonight! As good as you guys did last night, maybe a little bit better! :)

Catch ya later--out of town for a number of weeks, so hold the fort down round here, alright?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 1:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Yeah, I was impressed by that too...frankly, it confirms my early predictions that both the Cavs/Magic are still over-rated, not truly tested, not worthy, but that sounds too harsh, so I'll stop.

Besides, I'd love to meet your Celts in the finals.

Really. Gotta love your kid Rondo; we'll be fouling him EVERY possession, so buck up...

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Poster: snori Date: May 17, 2010 2:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

What are you two (SDH & WT) talking about ? If it's some kind of sport I feel obliged to point out (as no-one else will) that England won the World Twenty20 yesterday.

And now back to the music.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

sorry, snori; yes, he is a Boston Celtics fan, by birth/growing up rights (if I have it right), and I am an LA Lakers fan, by my father (big UCLA fan in the 60s), though I grew up in No Cal.

However, we both live in Arizona, and thus, also find ourselves rooting for the PHX Suns (Steve Nash, soccer fan himself?!)...

With luck, Celts and Lakers meet once again in the finals and SDH and Micah (the punk below) are deeply, deeply disappointed...(damn, or me!).

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: May 18, 2010 6:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

In the words of the cargo ship-hijacking penguin from "Madagascar":

"Well, this sucks"

Suns get blown out and the Sox rip my soul out yet again. This day's gonna be great.

Hopefully the Celts can once again lift my mood tonight.

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Poster: snori Date: May 17, 2010 4:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Alles klar. But I still prefer a SBD to a Matrix, most likely because I never saw the Dead outside of the U.K. and therefore the 'atmosphere' effect means little to me.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 4:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Ah--had to think about that one for a minute...as the sappy sentimentalist that I be, I feel bad for hunter; I have an even thinner skin (and that's not meant as a knock--just a way with some of "us"). With respect to the academic question at hand, like you, I prefer a SBD, though that's more to do with my history of having grown up with such poor AUDs (when it was all we had more often than not!) that the repeated experience of SBD clarity that came my way the past five yrs just blew me away, and biased me toward them even more...

That said, the sublime AUD sound of 8-6-71 is always in the back of my mind, and thus, I have sampled some matrx shows that have appeared among my "all time favs" (eg, 9-19-70), and been very happy with them...since they have always been great shows, I am not always sure much was "added" (ie, perfecting perfection, if you follow), BUT would never have concluded they have been in any way degraded, much less "violated"; nor would I have ever dreamed of letting someone know that I thought such things knowingly (gulp...fear in my gut that Rob searches deep in the archives and uncovers some post of mine doing exactly that!).

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Poster: snori Date: May 18, 2010 12:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

I should have added that I wouldn't want Hunter to stop producing Matrices - he does it well, many folks here clearly appreciate them, and I'm all in favour of there being a choice. it's just not this man's cup of char.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 17, 2010 9:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Hunter , I confess that I rarely choose matrix shows. But it is Your passion, it's contributing, and who gives a flip if someone likes it or not. Some will, focus on them (ain't no business, like ...... Life ).

This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2010-05-17 16:41:14

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Poster: hseamons Date: May 17, 2010 9:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

micah6vs8,

You are right, people have the right to like or dislike matrixes, all well and good. That being said, I think it's okay to reflect upon both the positive and the negative reviews here. In this case, the nature and purpose of Cliff's comments and one-star reviews on matrix links, specifically, which has been going on for some time, has ventured into troll-like activity, and that warrants attention, in my view. It's either that or ignore him completely, which I feel is less helpful to someone that probably needs a little reaching out to. I could be wrong here, however.

Anyway, continually receiving messages saying that my many hours of hard work is a "sacrilege," a "faux pas," "cheesy," like "putting ice into fine wine," an "adulteration" of the music, and "like adding an I Love Lucy laugh track to shows," in addition to a one-star accompaniment, is way off-base and merging into troll or flamer activity. This kind of posting is not serving the comment sections in an educated manner so much as they are there for attracting attention and making folk upset with their ridiculous nature and throwing off an "honest" rating scale. What a person should see as a 4 or 4.5 star rating for a show will suddenly see a 1.5 or 2 star rating, which is not really "accurate" given the tarnishing intentions of the one-star poster. This is an attack upon not only the posted show and its previous good star ratio, but also an attack upon the community that comes here to listen to shows and read "honest" opinions that are accurately reflected in the rating system. Guys like Cliff like to set things off simply because they have the power to do so behind a computer screen, and that's just lame and warrants a "negative review", which is often more interesting than no review, no? What Cliff does not realize, however, is that he has become a slave to the "one-star," - he beckons to its destructive and self-seeking forces - while it is really tarnishing his own potential "five-star" status in the now and hereafter. I simply felt calling out this deleterious and unwholesome behavior is ultimately to his and all of our benefit.



peace

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 17, 2010 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

I feel a little uncomfortable posting this, but something in your post compels me. I have been on IA since 2006ish . After the Gold Rush. I read reviews of shows and listened to 'em. I didn't even care about the forum > Started checking in '09 > First post this March. I have somewhat of a clue regarding the dynamics and personalities here. Again, I hear your passion, ultimately regarding your feelings of what is proper civil discourse, and your calling out what is not. I respect the drive for civility, but what is civility will never be congruent between any two individuals in the society with free speech. Ever. Only you can give power to another's speech. Life is just too fragile and short, frankly. You are the audience of the Matrix. If you get off, fuck everyone else. I mean how can people not love GD ? Seriously ? If other folks get off on your art than God Bless. Some won't and may say what you regard as nasty speech. It's just the other edge of the response to art. Don't give it power. Easier said then done sometimes, I know, but it will really stress you out for no or little resolution. And a favor, could you give me a few dates of what you consider your masterpieces ? Thanks.

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Poster: hseamons Date: May 17, 2010 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Your points are well taken, micah6vs8. I ain't stressin', just confessin'. All in good fun. Anywho, here's a few from 3 different eras I find to be pretty solid...Shoot, forgot 12/28/79 had been removed. I'll add some 80's shows here...


http://www.archive.org/details/gd1974-06-23.mtx.seamons.105867.flac24

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-05-08.mtx.seamons.97274.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1979-12-28.mtx.seamons.94267.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-05-11.mtx.seamons.107252.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1982-08-10.mtx.seamons.102902.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-07-13.mtx.seamons.105570.flac16

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Poster: daliguana Date: May 17, 2010 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Hey, Hunter - thought I'd chime in as just yesterday a buddy and I were commenting on your Barton Hall '77 matrix. My buddy (my first real trading partner) mentioned that he's been saving your matrices and replacing his Miller sources. We had a good little 'sus so thanks for that!

I don't know if my buddy is here on the archive or what prompted his telling me of the Hunter's Trix, but if you're here buddy - hope the ass cancer is better!

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 12:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Well said, kid (I think you're a kid anyhow...hope you take it the right way from an old fart; it's ALWAYS a compliment on nothing but my lost youth and broken down old body).

BTW, when I see your handle, I always think of "68" though I know it actually reads "...6vs8..." which is Greek to me.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 17, 2010 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

WT- Since last fall, I'm gourging on '68 . Last year or so moved past '69 as my fav. year. Must be my punk-ish inclinations and/or general love of freakiness- and freaking freely. : }...... And as far as the kid part, flattery will get you nowhere, sir !.... And lately, every time these days, while in the midst of the 11 I think of your handle Stretching the bow. Has this been discussed in depth here on IA ? Does this happen to others? WT., I assume you take full responsibility? Yes ?

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 17, 2010 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Yep; I guess it goes to show if you post long enough and frequently enough, no matter WHAT the content, folks eventually can't get you out of their head (sorta like those irritating songs from commercials or wherever that haunt you for a day after hearing them...?).

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: May 17, 2010 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

Reach out to some people and you might pull back a bloody stump. The difference between you two is that you are something of an artist, creating works for a community that craves it and appreciates it, while he is just an internet troll whacking off at his computer screen and giggling over pissing in people's cornflakes.

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Poster: high flow Date: May 17, 2010 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

It's now the nature of the beast.

Here we have one who produces a version of an original work. Much like a print of an original painting. We must realize that even the original varies from the painting in the artist's mind. Conception is the live performance. The 1st recording is the original. Thus, matrices and remasters are most like prints. There are printers who are able to beautifully reproduce art and others who simply spew for profit. Obviously the work here is a labor of love. I digress.

I guess I really question the need for a review of these matrices and remasters. Are we reviewing the band, the recording(levels and balance) or the matrix? Is it a combination? This is very complex and we get 5 little stars to convey our opinion.

I think rating a GD recording based on one's LIKE OR DISLIKE for matrix recordings skews the numbers. So, SDH's matrix-love-fests more than counter-balance Cliff's efforts to destroy the format.

Keep doing what you do. People enjoy it.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 17, 2010 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter

I completely ignore the ratings system. I like the CH's ? idea of a 100 pt. scale. There will still not be a bell curve (ever), but 100 gives more weighted responses, if nothing else, because one has 95 other choices.

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Poster: hseamons Date: May 17, 2010 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: To Hunter, Micah 6, verse 8

Micah 6, verse 8:

He has told you, O mortal, what is good;
and what does the LORD require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness,
and to walk humbly with your God...

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